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Nintendo's attempt to get rid of gen 5 images -- discussion (NO SPOILERS!)

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Jojo-Kunn
5P33D5
Bekki
arceusvoice
Paradox
locodude0001
griffinheart
Mysidia
Nellie Lovett
kommeo
Clover
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Clover

Clover
Admin
Admin

Ok, if someone can confirm this for me, I would appreciate it. From what I've HEARD, Nintendo is asking major sites (like serebii) to take down Generation 5 images. On serebii, you can see that the image list of gen 5 screen shots are no longer available.

Now, why would Nintendo do this?

I would assume that they don't want 'spoilers' getting to areas that the game hasn't been released in yet....but why? What do they care if someone does research on the internet and finds the list of Pokémon pictures?

The person searching isn't then forced to look through the page. They actually aren't even forced to click any link that says something like "Black and White". The person would assume there will be information (and possibly pictures) of the newest Pokémon there.

So assuming this is all true, I still have to ask why.

This is an information age where news travels quite quickly. An attempt to block the communication of news seems completely pointless. I haven't heard of them doing this for any other generation....have you?

My initial thought was that Serebii (or any other site that has gotten a message from Nintendo/Gamefreak) had been tricked by some Anonymous.

What are your thoughts on this issue?

Please don't post any pics as I've stated in the header this thread won't contain spoilers. It's simply a discussion on why the gen 5 pictures are being taken down.

http://www.sweetcharm.net

kommeo

kommeo
Admin
Admin

In The Games Department

Black & White - Massive Notice

From Serebii:
I have just received notification from Nintendo regarding the Pokémon Black & White games. They have requested that I no longer post images about the games claiming they violate intellectual property. As such, for the time being I have had to remove all images related to the games. Our section will still be massively indepth and I'll continue to cover the games where possible and provide an alternative to the images as and when we can. As of today, I have been given the goahead to start posting images up subject to fair use so we should be back to our usual functional capacity soon once I get some clarification as to what the actual problem was. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused during our Black & White coverage
In The Games Department.

I don't think this is a trick Clover, I heard that they got to youtube to. I could be wrong though. I really don't care that they took it down, to me it just lets me go to different site without having to see a pic of the new Gen.

Nellie Lovett

Nellie Lovett
Team Rocket
Team Rocket

Yeah, it was something like it'd hurt them or something. But I think it'd help them more than anything else. >_> Here's a blog poast from one of the groups I'm in on dA:

apparently on alot of pokemon sites the nintendo guys have sent letters to the admins of the sites telling them to remove all pokemon b/w images off their sites. the reason for this is because it will hurt nintendo or something like that. so alot of pokemon sites have removed juicy b/w images from their sites..

but we still get a hefty amount of information from pokemon sites. just no pictures! im a little dissapointed. i wanted to draw more pokemon but now i cant find a reference. if anyone knows a good website i'd be really happy if you posted it on the comments below!

Soyeah:\.

http://md427.deviantart.com/

Mysidia

Mysidia
Mystic Trainer
Mystic Trainer

This is just weird, Nintendo does not always make good moves though.

http://www.pokemonmysidia.com

griffinheart

griffinheart
Admin
Admin

It's just weird... I mean, they haven't said anything before .-. and what? its been like over 10 years now? And I am not completely sure that it's Nintendo... it's just too weird...

http://guardeddreams.site40.net

locodude0001

locodude0001
Uber Trainer
Uber Trainer

Bulbapedia says it's confirmed that it's a lawyer.

"Following further information posted in the discussion thread for this story on the Bulbagarden forums by WaterPokémonMaster, we are now confident in stating that this is not a hoax of any kind, and that these notices are legitimate. Both WaterPokémonMaster and Joe have since contacted the lawyer directly by phone. WaterPokémonMaster has made it clear in his statement on our forums that he does not wish to discuss the content of these discussions. The exact reasons for these notices having been sent to these sites are as of yet still not fully understood by Bulbagarden."

... but i still think it's BS. What if it's A lawyer? not, like, a lawyer hired by Nintendo? Or just someone pretending to be one. If this really isn't a hoax or something, i still question "why?"

There's no harm being done to them. Unless, like, 50% of the gamers saw the new pokemon and said "Screw it, i'm done. No more Pokemon." And even then, they could just bring the game back to Gamestop or something if they don't like it.

The pictures in no way have anything to do with downloading a rom, so they're not losing money that way.

So what the frick, Nintendo?

Paradox

Paradox
Pokémon Master
Pokémon Master

It's already too late. Many fans outside of Japan have seen the pictures already, and the ones that haven't are most likely the ones that don't want to get spoiled. They did it pretty fast considering that the Pokemon sprites have been up since Thursday (that's when I saw them, they probably were up Wednesday or something), but I agree with what Mysidia is saying. I want to know if he/she is Nintendo's lawyer or not.

http://www.skorgro.com/

Clover

Clover
Admin
Admin

Youtube takes videos down ALL the time. So if a few pokemon vids are being taken down, it doesn't surprise me.

What I want to see is a message posted on the official Nintendo site, and maybe an explanation.

I actually had another concern....as it seems like Nintendo is trying to keep the info secret: Does that mean as SOON as the game is released people can post pics? Well you know not EVERYONE will have the game by then, so maybe we should wait until at least 90% of the fan base has the game before we post pics online >_>

...where will it stop? Do you think they'll ever message serebii again about this?

http://www.sweetcharm.net

locodude0001

locodude0001
Uber Trainer
Uber Trainer

Clover wrote:
I actually had another concern....as it seems like Nintendo is trying to keep the info secret:

Maybe they're ashamed 5th gen exists and are trying to rid of all evidence it exists besides selling the games for moneyz

arceusvoice

arceusvoice
Mystic Trainer
Mystic Trainer

this is weird and unnecessary ._.

why don't they let us see a bit of the new games and make us wait MONTHS to only try to buy them?

i think it is ridiculous

I mean dudes they are giving you something kinda like ads saying "OHEMGEE the new games are amazing oh look the game is fantastic, it has this thing that is amazing and blah blah blah gjfgfjkdhjkh" and people say " I wanna get it so badly D:" but instead they say "NO DEWD, you won't post moar cool info or Imma put you in jail D<"

I mean, i know some people want to keep it a surprise, but as clover said, people can choose whether if they want to know about the new games or not, they aren't forced to watch the new stuff...as i said before RIDICULOUS

but however, those are their games so they can choose if they want something to happen or not :/

Bekki

Bekki
Trainer
Trainer

Heard about this one and to me it is stupid. I have a few new gen images from other sites and I am suprised that Nintendo has taken this action. This has been going on for about 14 years and that is the time that I have played the games.

5P33D5

5P33D5
Frontier Brain
Frontier Brain

To tell the truth i think its a scam... Nintendo should be bragging about 5th gen :\

also check this pokebeach article out - it's long but it expresses his/her anger xD:

Spoiler:

Bekki

Bekki
Trainer
Trainer

Blimey s/he is quite angry on this one.

Mysidia

Mysidia
Mystic Trainer
Mystic Trainer

Well usually the most probable reason for a game company to do this is that the game has received bad feedbacks and that they have to make adjustment for later release. Not sure if this is true for B/W?

http://www.pokemonmysidia.com

Jojo-Kunn

Jojo-Kunn
Pokémon Legend
Pokémon Legend

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP.

'Nuff said.

Serotonin

Serotonin
Team Rocket
Team Rocket

locodude0001 wrote:Maybe they're ashamed 5th gen exists and are trying to rid of all evidence it exists besides selling the games for moneyz

I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THIS.
I LOVE YOU, LOCO.

http://www.seeking-eudamonia.tumblr.com

Clover

Clover
Admin
Admin

adoxography wrote:
locodude0001 wrote:Maybe they're ashamed 5th gen exists and are trying to rid of all evidence it exists besides selling the games for moneyz

I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THIS.
I LOVE YOU, LOCO.

Nice nice XD I guess that makes more sense then random e-mails being sent out with fancy book learnin' lawyer talk.

Some Law/business major has too much time on their hands =_=

http://www.sweetcharm.net

Mysidia

Mysidia
Mystic Trainer
Mystic Trainer

lol this is a very interesting point locodude. XD

http://www.pokemonmysidia.com

Blaze

Blaze
Pokémon Professor
Pokémon Professor

ok, its time for me to post : P

~What I sent to Nintendo~

Dear Nintendo,

I’ve seen several Pokemon fansites take down their images of the newest Pokemon Black and White games at your request. I just wanted to write in to express my dissatisfaction with this request. We as fans would like to know all about the games that your company publishes and would like to fully appreciate the long hard work Game Freak has put into this new generation of Pokemon games. It seems uncharacteristic for Nintendo to be so harsh on sites that only wish to see your games thrive and help build the community around them. It hurts not only fans, but also our image of Nintendo as a company. We hope you would reconsider your recent actions taken against sites such as Serebii (http://serebii.net) and PokeBeach (http://pokebeach.com).

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
X

----------------------------------------

Their Response~

Hello,

Thanks for contacting us about our request regarding Pokemon Black and White images. I wanted to let you know that Nintendo supports and appreciates the efforts that Pokemon fans go through to create fan sites. In most cases there is no issue with the content that is posted, but on this occasion we had to contact a select few websites to ask them to take down confidential images.

I also wanted to let you know that your comments have been documented and made available to other departments to use as they see fit. Thank you for taking the time to share them with us.


Sincerely,

Sharon Matheny
Nintendo of America Inc.


Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com/

http://www.nintendo.com/consumersurvey.jsp?iid=859396&aid=94&ref=blazikenfire@live.com


If you are unable to open the survey directly from this link, please copy and paste the entire link into your Internet browser.

-------------------------------

What do you guys think?

http://www.thepokemonmansion.net78.net

Nellie Lovett

Nellie Lovett
Team Rocket
Team Rocket

Blaze wrote:
I also wanted to let you know that your comments have been documented and made available to other departments to use as they see fit. Thank you for taking the time to share them with us.

...That sounds a bit dodgy to me, I dunno why:\.

http://md427.deviantart.com/

Jenrya Miku

Jenrya Miku
Team Galactic
Team Galactic

I like her name.

Clover

Clover
Admin
Admin

usually people from an established company post their position, contact info (number etc) and other information. Not just their name and website....

just form past experience!

http://www.sweetcharm.net

Bekki

Bekki
Trainer
Trainer

I am also gussing that the this is same one that they send to other people when e-mailing about B/W images. Other companies like SquareEnix have no problems this image realesing before the game comes out. I had FF13 images about a year before the game came out.

Annyway, my point is that Nintendo is being stupid and they are thinking that the game will not be a hit. Well it is a hit in Japan. Nintendo stop being stupid, respect your loyal fans and and give us some images.

Nuf said.

Jojo-Kunn

Jojo-Kunn
Pokémon Legend
Pokémon Legend

Shifty Nintendo e-mails are shifty.

Bekki

Bekki
Trainer
Trainer

Too true on that one.

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