Standard Tourney Rules 10/08/09

How do we have battles?

Battles are over wifi connection through your nintendo DS.

If your computer connects to the internet via a wireless network, you should be able to locate it on a list of networks with your Nintendo DS.

A little tutorial is here:

http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_get_my_nintendo_ds_to_connect_to_the_internet.html


After you get your connection working, you basically schedule a time to meet with your opponent...then battle!!!

i don't understand why garchomps are ubers. it makes me sad. cause i raised that pokemon from a gibbles.

yeah. I think they are just a bit too overpowered, so they ended up making the "official" list :/

but if your computer's internet security is McAfee, you can't connect since it's too strong i think i tried at my best friends house and it failed and i'm pretty sure that that's what pechingbird has and it doesnt work for him either, but it probably works for the wii

As far as items go, are quick claws, metronomes, scope lenses, and expert belts allowed?

Wait a minute, why do I see no Freeze Clause?

Mewtoo22 wrote:Wait a minute, why do I see no Freeze Clause?

Should I add it? D: Because some moves freeze by chance...and if it's the pokémons primary or only attack move, I would think they'd just have to go with it. Know what I mean?

fuzia wrote:As far as items go, are quick claws, metronomes, scope lenses, and expert belts allowed?

Quick claws have to do with chance (and we have the chance item clause) so I'm going to say no. I have read some decent arguments against banning quick claw though, but for this first tournament we'll keep it out - Unless mewtoo or DTDany comes up with a reason why they should be allowed of course :3

I haven't read anything on Metronome, Scope Lens, or Expert Belt being banned, so I'll say go for it. Just remember: no duplicate items ^_^

Clover wrote:

fuzia wrote:As far as items go, are quick claws, metronomes, scope lenses, and expert belts allowed?

Quick claws have to do with chance (and we have the chance item clause) so I'm going to say no. I have read some decent arguments against banning quick claw though, but for this first tournament we'll keep it out - Unless mewtoo or DTDany comes up with a reason why they should be allowed of course :3

I haven't read anything on Metronome, Scope Lens, or Expert Belt being banned, so I'll say go for it. Just remember: no duplicate items ^_^

I'm sorry, I didn't the item clause included. I'll have to forfeit the tourney. I don't play with the item clause on, I just don't see a point to it. Sorry Jay.

That's unfortunate Babael

Would you reconsider if I told you that once your a gym leader, I wouldn't mind if you had duplicate items?

I'm not too familiar with what an "item based on chance" is. .-.

Scope Lens increases chance of a Critical Hit, would that count? :/

I suppose so.

Gah. I just hate it because there isn't 1 standard, end all, tournament rule list you know? Everything is debatable.

Clover wrote:That's unfortunate Babael

Would you reconsider if I told you that once your a gym leader, I wouldn't mind if you had duplicate items?

Well the problem is that my team won't function the way it's planned to if I changed the items. Especially on my walls, the items turn a 2HKO into A 3HKO. So it would screw them over. I wish everyone still competing in the tourney luck.

May I ask what the items are? You can PM me if you'd like.

@fuzia:
Quick Claw is considered Hax Item as it has a 10% chance to strike first.
Although it might seem not a problem, imagine a Rhyperrior that has the Quick Claw and it activates.
metronome isn't about Hax, it just powers the same attack if used more than once.
Scope Lens is considered a Hax Item but it is generally used (most of the time for Super Luck ability Pokemon).
Expert Belt is nothing about hax, it just adds a bit of power to the super-effective attacks.

All in all, just the Quick Claw is a "problem".


I won't force anyone to keep up those rules, it was just a piece of advice I gave to Clover; if both battlers accept the Hax Items or play under no rules, I would say this is ok.

About the duplicate items: I didn't play under that rule, as it would make me use just one Leftovers or just one Life Orb. I understand the Focus Sash singularity but I do not consider even that a problem (any weather damaging effects destroy the Sashes).

It is all up to you, I just explained my point of view. Not battling anymore I am not entitled to vote or anything, just trying to help out and give a fair chance to everyone competing.

I'm going to remove the "no duplicate items" rule, since it was added later anywho.

As for the quick claw thing, the example you gave didn't really make sense to me. To me, adding a small chance of raising quickness (1 in 10) to a strong/slow pokémon just seems like smart strategy.

I haven't thoroughly researched every single chance item, and how they might throw battles off 100% of the time or anything though, which is why I still appreciate your input.

Sorry if my English isn't too good ...

In Pokemon we all know that luck can not be 100% controlled, crits, misses happen. Those items would mainly just enhance this chance of hax and would be less a game of strategy, ideas and more a game of luck.
I know the 10% the chance they enhance is pretty small and most of the times ineffective as the Pokemon might have been better with a sure item (one that has a fixed effect) but from time to time it might get nasty.
I encountered once in Tower a Trainer that had a focus band (not sash), and kept that Pokemon alive for 3 turns, which was rather
The difference between the 2:
Focus Sash will only activate if the Pokemon is at 100% and the move against him would take all his HP;
Focus Band has a chance (I think it is 10%) to keep the Pokemon that holds it alive for any amount of turns (not depending on HP).
Trainers tried to make the game fair and not to be based on chances that much.

Hope it helped and was understandable!

I get you...I think! ^_^ (your English is quite fine by the way)

At times, Pokémon seems primarily a game of chance though, even without the chance items, which is why I'm removing the clause for the first tournament. As you said, this is sort of a 'tester' tournament where we can get to know eachother and such.

If problems start to emerge (like the ONLY people who win are ones who use chance items or something like that) We could enforce the rule again.

Until then, we'll just be doing some experimentation and observation ^_^!

About the tests and observation:
We can do whatever we please as those rules are a standard but not something like some written laws, those were mostly created by Smogon and some other smaller communities. It would be great if we would do our own tests and see how is better and test Pokemon out, have maybe own tiers and so on. We can always play by their rules but it doesn't hurt if we try or create own rules.
So I wish everyone participating good luck and never forget to have fun (because that is what it is about - enjoying)!

Are you able to use traded pokemon with japanise letters?

Clover wrote:

DTDany wrote:About the tests and observation:
We can do whatever we please as those rules are a standard but not something like some written laws, those were mostly created by Smogon and some other smaller communities. It would be great if we would do our own tests and see how is better and test Pokemon out, have maybe own tiers and so on. We can always play by their rules but it doesn't hurt if we try or create own rules.
So I wish everyone participating good luck and never forget to have fun (because that is what it is about - enjoying)!

Agreed :3!!

djmo76 wrote:Are you able to use traded pokemon with japanise letters?

If you have a strong suspicion that they might be hacked (level 100 shiny etc...) You might not want to use it :/ That's just my oppinion anyway. If the moveset is sound, then you should be fine. (basically just make sure that the pokémon in question is actually capable of learning the moves it currently has through breeding, TMs, and move tutors)

so it's Destiny bond a banned move?

i think that move's fine. destiny bond is not a move that automatically KOs a pokemon like Sheer Cold. and your taking damage in that attack too because your pokemon has to faint. but idk, ask clover, she's in charge

I am going to ask one question because this is allowed in WWPL. Are we allowed to have 2 leftovers or not. The Way WWPL does it is No Dup Items clause with the exception of 2 leftovers. Meaning you can have 2 leftovers but everything else only one of. So what is the protocol here?